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Old Aug 19, 2007, 08:22 AM // 08:22   #41
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I don't think it's right for new people...u had let's say rank 4 before the double reward update...u made rank 10-12 with it...and now you want it no more because you're max rank and don't want others to be the same...
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Old Aug 19, 2007, 08:26 AM // 08:26   #42
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Who said that ? You still don't have an idea about AB ?
Saltspray Beach is only equal map. Etnaran Keys is Luxon favor, Kaanai Canyon is heavy Luxon favor. Grenz Frontier is the Kurzick version of Etnaran, and Ancestral Lands is the Kurzick version of Kaanai.
Unfortunately, for whatever reason, Saltspray isn't actually balanced.

Almost every Luxon player will agree that there is something about that map that gives the Kurzicks and advantage. I think my Win to Loss ratio on that map is something like 1:4.
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Old Aug 19, 2007, 08:36 AM // 08:36   #43
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Unfortunately, for whatever reason, Saltspray isn't actually balanced.

Almost every Luxon player will agree that there is something about that map that gives the Kurzicks and advantage. I think my Win to Loss ratio on that map is something like 1:4.
The design of the map looks balanced but yes...kurzicks tend to win more than luxons...maybe there are skilled kurzicks ...maybe it's lack of skill for luxons...but another balanced map won't hurt
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Old Aug 19, 2007, 08:50 AM // 08:50   #44
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The design of the map looks balanced but yes...kurzicks tend to win more than luxons...maybe there are skilled kurzicks ...maybe it's lack of skill for luxons...but another balanced map won't hurt
Actually, it has little to do with the skill levels. In fact, if skill is a factor, you have it backwards.

The problem lies with the way each side tends to do Alliance Battles. Kurzicks like to mob up, while Luxons prefer to split into smaller groups. The design of Saltspray favours the mobbing tactic.
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Old Aug 19, 2007, 11:17 AM // 11:17   #45
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A friend of mine as a brilliant young man for a son. When about 7 or so, he was at the Renaissance Festival and wearing a Robin Hood costume. He met another little boy wearing a Robin Hood costume and said, “I am Robbin Hood.” The other little boy responded with, “I am Robin Hood.” And my friend’s son, without batting an eye or pause of any sort, said, “Great! Lets go get the sheriff.” He had no problems sharing the fantasy of being the hero. He had no ego to disappoint by including others.

You are a... good story teller lol.
First, I try to point of view what of the PvEr of AB are feeling without looking at the PvEr point of view since I am speaking on behalf of the PvPer ABer.
Then as I edited my main post that the current Alliagence titles could not be changed anymore since it has PvE skills in it. Therefore I edited keep the double faction and instead perhaps give respected titles for PvPer AB only. Since Alliance Battle are both a bit of PvEr and PvPer now.


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The game is in its last phase. Soon there will be a new engine where the characters we have made will make no difference and will not be able to continue. In the short time we have left it is in the interest of a great many players to obtain as much as they can for the Hall of Monuments. For those who are playing the game, all 10 character classes, the cost of maxing many titles in game gold (huge amounts of time farming) and in time for points (Balthazar, Alliance, Sunspear, and Lightbringer) is outrageous – and in most cases always was.

I can't point that enough, so many people are in the "hyped" state of the new engine and the new Guildwars will come out. Again, we pointed out that we may be too late to make any changes now, but we can always make room for improvement now before the new engine comes out, so Anet wouldn't make the same mistake and will have better ideas/experiments on the new engine to deal with the matter of creating world for both PvPer and PvEr.

I myself, as a pure PvPer, only have 3 PvE characters and the rest of my slots are PvP. It just gets repetitive for me in the PvE missions other than farming that is.
I don't think it costs that much to get Allegiance titles. You can create PvP character only and join a guild which has the faction alliance in it and start ABing.
If you want the easier way, you can Faction Farming. But that is boring in my opinion.



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The point requirements for scoring appear to have been made under the impression that a person would have only one character and would only ever seek 2-3 titles, minimal armor, and maybe one nice item for that character in the 6 month period between releases. That has been utter balderdash. All titles and all rewards are serious grind fests for no reason. As antagonistic as I have been toward many GW decisions and failures, I have been and remain a fan who has purchased every game and expansion available
I respect your statement by this. It is hard for full-time worker(if you are that is) players who play GW only when they are free to concentrate and play to earn more titles.
It takes ridiculous amount of time yes, the point that Anet make this title are hard to increase people to play Guildwars longer, thus what you called it "addiction". You ever see that Korean kid on the news? Yes they want us to be like them more or less. *I am just joking* :P


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I would suspect that the gracious gesture of increasing rewards was to try and lure more of us into PvP.
You are absolutely right with this. But they should think of the AB PvPer point of view as well. As you can see Alliance Battle has both PvP and PvE aspects into it. I am disappointed that they walk over us like that.


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Something else that would increase my interest is if PvP points could be spent to obtain things of value in PvE. That would increase a lot of interest. If through PvP Faction points one could mod or purchase a PvE weapon and skin of the colors one chooses then I would have more reason to PvP.
NO NO NO NO NO NO.
I don't see it fit in this, if your HoH rank can use to obtain skills in PvE, and if they double the fame gain say to make to get that paticular skills/euipment faster in PvE world, all HoH players would be mad with this since the amount of dedication and time to reach that rank is very hard compare to PvE.
Why? Because PvP is different than PvE. Please do not combine these two things together for example in HoH. But for AB, it was fine I suppose to combine both PvP and PvE till they introduce that PvE skills to the Allegiance titles , since AB "was" PvP and less PvE back then. Now it is going towards PvE favor which we the PvPer are kinda sitting in a boat between two big waves.

As I mention before, Alliance Battle now is for the both enjoyment of PvE and PvP. But with the titles that they change it to increase PvE aspects in game, we deserve our own title for PvPer AB only in my opinion.



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In my opinion, those who have spent 5 to 10 thousand hours PvPing for so little return
We never ever ever ever have this thought for "so little return". Why? Because once we finish PvE (campaigns, get all armors, have money, etc). We stop PvEing and go to PvP to seek titles.
As for you, maybe your friends into PvE and you guys are PvEing together. No offence on that. Our own view are we play guildwars since their PvP aspect of the game are widely popular in MMORPG community even perhaps the best. In Guildwars 2 maybe they would increase the PvE point of view to balanced
between PvP and PvE. Thus not all people will play Guildwars 2, it all depends on the outcome of the game and interfaces.

As for AB we only AB to donate the faction to the guild while at that we increase our Allegiance title as well. Back then, I was in guild that hold one of the main towns in Luxons. As I donate, my title increases. Those satisfy me well enough that I always see my bar slowly increases from hard work and gain some titles that people from PvE doesn't have (because it is impossible if you want to earn these titles just by bribing those priests. In Kurzick it is easier to get through faction farming* note that.)

Therefore Anet wants PvEr to come to AB to experience some PvP point of view towards this Allegiance titles. Think of AB as a stepping stone to the higher PvP world such as TA and HoH.
That’s another reason why we AB instead of HoH. Less pressure, we can laugh, relax and enjoy PvP more without “ahhh catch that spike”. Spike in 3,2,1 *SPLAT* or “infuse on 1!”, Im sure there are more… lol

What more is that these AB titles are account based which adds to my motivation. That was good ol' time back then (2-3 months ago I think before the changes).
Now that these Allegiance titles are already wrecked. We'll leave it as that and move on. If our voices are heard by Gaile or other developer, hopefully they can introduce new titles for PvPer AB only. So there will be room again for PvP in AB not just for PvE. We doubt this will happen, but it is never too late. Nothing can be hard to achieve if you work hard on it such as (hardcore gamer like us).




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Old Aug 19, 2007, 12:17 PM // 12:17   #46
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Wiki quote? What are you on? As stated in the original post, and linked to, that is right off the official GuildWars site, http://www.guildwars.com/support/gameupdates/ its in one of the recent updates.

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You do realise it will take 4-5 years to max any of those titles? These titles are maxable in theory only.
Try telling that to all the players that were stuck at rank 9 before they raised the max rank about a year ago.

You may want to actually try *reading* what ppl post, and even maybe *thinking* a little before responding with a knee jerk reaction simply because you did'nt like being proven wrong.

You also managed to completely ignore the main point of the post as well. I am not arguing whether the friends track is pve or pvp, since it obviously has elements of both, in fact, I have no "side" on this matter at all, I'm merely pointing out where ppl are making wrong assertions.
However, the way that the title is primarily used by the players in game at the moment, is to exhibit experience playing in AB (even though *in theory* a player may have gotten all their faction farming pve quests, it is rather unlikely, and I dont know of anyone that has acheived any significant rank this way) therefore, it should probably be addressed more as a pvp title than a pve title. I personally never really thought it would be used this way myself, but I suppose that the fact it is, is just a testament that AB is more popular than once thought, and AB pvp'ers want recognition for it like any other form of pvp.
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Old Aug 19, 2007, 04:53 PM // 16:53   #47
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Try telling that to all the players that were stuck at rank 9 before they raised the max rank about a year ago.
I Power of my Rangers I was spamming his Phoenix in ToA december 2005. They have usually added ranks as people we're about to attain them.

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You may want to actually try *reading* what ppl post, and even maybe *thinking* a little before responding with a knee jerk reaction simply because you did'nt like being proven wrong.
Same here as the wiki or official site is irrelavent to the rest of the post.

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You also managed to completely ignore the main point of the post as well. I am not arguing whether the friends track is pve or pvp, since it obviously has elements of both, in fact, I have no "side" on this matter at all, I'm merely pointing out where ppl are making wrong assertions.
However, the way that the title is primarily used by the players in game at the moment, is to exhibit experience playing in AB (even though *in theory* a player may have gotten all their faction farming pve quests, it is rather unlikely, and I dont know of anyone that has acheived any significant rank this way) therefore, it should probably be addressed more as a pvp title than a pve title. I personally never really thought it would be used this way myself, but I suppose that the fact it is, is just a testament that AB is more popular than once thought, and AB pvp'ers want recognition for it like any other form of pvp.
I'm guessing you are luxon? It is generally known the first Kurzick rank 12s farmed for their title (I was in a pve alliance with title crazy people, and yes they maxed it pretty quick before the update -oo only 300 more fff runs and I get max rank!-, and again after -oo only 1200 more fff runs and I max it again, should take 4 days!-, saw that come by in alliance chat a few times, in an alliance that didn't hold a town, so figure how the town holding kurzicks get their title). Also farming for it as a kurzick is way faster with the idiotic wait times in AB.
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Old Aug 19, 2007, 05:14 PM // 17:14   #48
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Actually, it has little to do with the skill levels. In fact, if skill is a factor, you have it backwards.

The problem lies with the way each side tends to do Alliance Battles. Kurzicks like to mob up, while Luxons prefer to split into smaller groups. The design of Saltspray favours the mobbing tactic.
Can we just get over this bullshit. Kurzicks mob no more than Luxons than do. All Luxons think Kurzicks mob alot, all Kurzicks think Luxons mob alot. There is no RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing point in argueing anything to do with mobs! IT IS PURE BULLSHIT!
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Old Aug 19, 2007, 08:06 PM // 20:06   #50
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I Power of my Rangers I was spamming his Phoenix in ToA december 2005.
Rank 9 is Tiger dude, Phoenix is Rank 12.
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Same here as the wiki or official site is irrelavent to the rest of the post.
I dont know what this is supposed to even mean. However its obvious you are not sticking to the topic, once again.
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I'm guessing you are luxon?
Actually, I have switched back and forth as circumstances have required, however, at the time that the farming you are talking about was going on, I was actually Kurzick.
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It is generally known the first Kurzick rank 12s farmed for their title (I was in a pve alliance with title crazy people, and yes they maxed it pretty quick before the update -oo only 300 more fff runs and I get max rank!-, and again after -oo only 1200 more fff runs and I max it again, should take 4 days!-, saw that come by in alliance chat a few times, in an alliance that didn't hold a town, so figure how the town holding kurzicks get their title). Also farming for it as a kurzick is way faster with the idiotic wait times in AB.
Stop taking things out of context, and *once again* trying to shift the subject off of something which you have been proven wrong about. You know full well I am talking about after they nerfed the ridiculously easy Faction Farming quests on both Kurzick, and Luxon sides which happened rather early on.


As you have demonstrated a complete inability to stay on topic, and continue to take things out of context, and make wild assumptions in an attempt to support your point, you are most likely either a troll, or simply just very bad at arguing. Either way, continuing to reply to your trolling is a waste of time, and therefore, I choose not too. Unless you actually come up with an objective, logical arguement to support the original point of the topic.
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Old Aug 19, 2007, 09:44 PM // 21:44   #51
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A lot of flaming not even near the subject of this topic
You might stop flaming him/her too.

We are trying to get people to discuss about new maps in AB and what they think about the new title system and your just bassing people. GET ON TOPIC.

any ways..

After some posts that Saltspray wasnt balance and 1 or 2 more "balanced" map cant hurt, im was thinking where do you put them in. It might be an idea to make Saltspray lightly kurzick favored. Since people are saying its some what kurzicks favored any ways. Then make a new map, named here Jade Waterfalls, to be lightly luxon favored. So when the line crosses to the Harvest temple into Luxon side youll get the Waterfalls and into kurzick side youll get the Saltspray. After that when it goes behind Unwaken the normal medium defensive maps will come. (Grenz and Keys)

You dont need to change the underdog system for this. Waterfalls can just be 1.500 faction. Its just 1 more map then. Not to much work for the Dev's this way
Still thinking of a way to stick 2 more maps into the line

I didnt react on the extended titles yet.
Me, personally, i dont think its a really good idea to get even more titles in 1 side. If you want to get them both it nearly impossible. Yes i do know kurzicks can farm it rather easy but still. But for people that just want to play for their title it is going to be really hard to get both titles.
And you dont have 2 title tracks in HA either.
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Old Aug 19, 2007, 10:34 PM // 22:34   #52
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Old Aug 20, 2007, 04:19 AM // 04:19   #53
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(5) A Vote / Kick system when already in a zone.

ABSOLUTELY!! This has been needed since day one, but for pve more than pvp.
I don't know how many times I have been in a party where there was one guy that was either verbally abusive, rude, liked to run off and agro, was a 55 monk pretending to be a healer, .... the list goes on and on. But you are stuck with them, cause there is no way to kick them once you are in a zone.

As for all the people saying "OH NOES, a vote kick system will be abused like crazy!!"

They obviously have not played any games with any sort of reasonable implementation of a vote kick system, since it is *normally* nearly impossible to even get someone voted out for a *legitimate* reason, and in my experience it almost NEVER happens just because someone wants to be funny.
Of course there are idiots that will say, hey I don't like Mace cause he is killing me, or because he said something I didn't like, or whatever, but they rarely even get one vote, let alone enough to kick someone.
On the contrary, I have been in games where a person was REPEATEDLY KILLING THEIR OWN TEAMMATES (thank goodness this is impossible in GW) and yet there would be one person that would think it was funny, and along with the offender, their 2 votes would be enough to keep them from getting kicked. :P
I have seen some incredible offenses brought up for vote, and somehow not get even 51% majority, so I *REALLY* doubt abuse would be an issue.
As long as it was required for at least 8/12 to vote someone out of AB, or 3/4 for just your own team, I'm fairly sure it would not be a problem.
For someone to rig an 8/12 vote it would require them to sync join with another team, and realistically, most griefers are going to have a hard enough time finding 8 ppl to even make up their teams, let alone have the patience to keep trying to sync join. And 8/12 would at least make it so that even if a whole team of leechers joined, and voted to stay, the rest of the team could still kick them.
Oh, and of course the opposing faction could not vote ppl off.
Although, I could see a system where it would take at least 13/24 players in an AB to vote someone out (if they were being *really* abusive) and I honestly could not see this ever realistically being abused, since that would mean you would need to have EVERY single player on one side vote you off, as well as even someone on your own team. I doubt this would happen even if there was someone somehow ruining the game for everyone. Its been my experience that in random public games, its *extremely* difficult to get everyone to vote, even for a very good reason.
So what I see you saying is that if implemented, the result will only be people being able to tell you they want you out of the group by pressing /kick, instead just telling you they don't want you in the group. Why code for a system that isn't going to solve anything except give you another way to insult each other?
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Old Aug 20, 2007, 05:49 AM // 05:49   #54
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I am really at a loss as to where you got the idea that a system for voting someone out of a match, or a mission, fissure, ect.. would be for anything other than to deal with ppl you do not want in your party. That is the whole Idea. It is to deal with ppl that abuse the game: Leechers, Vulgar verbal abusers, persons who advertise being something they are not. So on and so forth.
If you had read the whole post, I listed some examples of why you would want to kick someone from your party. For AB purposes, it is mostly to deal with leechers. If leechers constantly get kicked from matches, and therefore recieve no free faction, they no longer have any reason to leech, so they will stop doing it.

Lorinda, I have no problem with what you have said, and have no intention to get in an arguement with you, so I hope you will not take this as a challenge to do so.
But I was not flaming him/her, I was addressing his arguments directed at me. And the reason they are off topic is because he/she had attempted to shift focus from the topic at hand by picking at semantics rather than address the original focus of the post. If you read back, the intent in my original reply to him was to show that his logic for saying the Alliance battle title is pve was flawed, and mainly to point out that regardless of any one's personal feelings on the issue, the title is primarily used by players as a pvp function.
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Old Aug 20, 2007, 06:53 AM // 06:53   #55
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After some posts that Saltspray wasnt balance and 1 or 2 more "balanced" map cant hurt, im was thinking where do you put them in. It might be an idea to make Saltspray lightly kurzick favored. Since people are saying its some what kurzicks favored any ways. Then make a new map, named here Jade Waterfalls, to be lightly luxon favored. So when the line crosses to the Harvest temple into Luxon side youll get the Waterfalls and into kurzick side youll get the Saltspray. After that when it goes behind Unwaken the normal medium defensive maps will come. (Grenz and Keys)
Hmm that is a very interesting ideas. It is very hard to compare which sides have the more advatanges in the Saltspray Beach indeed.
But yeah the problem of adding new maps are where we should put them. I was thinking the same as you. Or maybe a map between
Grenz-Lands or Keys-Canyon. Then the problem with this, it will be very rare to see Lands and Canyon if you add the maps here. In addition to that there will be more works for the dev as you said.
However maybe they could shorten duration of map change. I don't really know how the map change still... I wish someone have any info on this?
I know someone told me every 2 hours or so the map change but the actual line if it is going forward or backwards, I have no clue on this.

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You dont need to change the underdog system for this.
Ofcourse! I love this system.

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Me, personally, i dont think its a really good idea to get even more titles in 1 side. If you want to get them both it nearly impossible. Yes I do know kurzicks can farm it rather easy but still. But for people that just want to play for their title it is going to be really hard to get both titles.
And you dont have 2 title tracks in HA either.
Well you have a point there mai, ofcourse HA only has one title, because they are designed to be PvP.
But my thoughts on Alliance Battle are designed for PvP and PvE.
Say for example if you win each round you earn 5 points of "<title name-dynamic> + 'Conquerer'" title <--sounds good in homelands. In enemy lands you will earn more. If you lose a round at homeland you will not earn anything. However in enemy lands if you lose you still earn 2 points for example.
Therefore by implementing this new rank system, we the ABer can have gauge system so we know the expereinces players *similar to HoH system yknow.
Ofcourse you earn Alliagence faction point as well even when you lose. never hurt to add something new rather to edit current things
Heh, dont mind me I am just throwing out my ideas. Whetever people agree or not agree. I don't really mind.
Peace.
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Old Aug 20, 2007, 07:16 AM // 07:16   #56
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Actually, it has little to do with the skill levels. In fact, if skill is a factor, you have it backwards.

The problem lies with the way each side tends to do Alliance Battles. Kurzicks like to mob up, while Luxons prefer to split into smaller groups. The design of Saltspray favours the mobbing tactic.
i am sorry but that is a load of BS.
it is nonsense to group people together by the fact that some of them chose red and the others chose blue.

getting back to the task at hand, the vote kick feature is a nice idea, but it has a rather fatal flaw.

will anyone use it?

when i play games like BF2 which have vote kick features, the amount of times i have seen a player get vote kicked, is around the number zero.
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Old Aug 20, 2007, 08:12 AM // 08:12   #57
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no to the /votekick idea. simply because i prefer to win AB battles, and to win, i'll resort to any trick/tactic available to me. even using vulgar language to goad opponents into chasing me across the map. having this command will probably get me kicked out of a lot of groups, when i'm helping my side to win.

also, kicking someone from a team won't solve the problem. you'll still be shorthanded.

instead, i suggest the following fix to leechers:

IF a person leaves OR does not move out of the starting area: a random npc spawns and follows the team leader. this npc can be warrior, ranger, or ele (using the same builds as the elite warrior, ranger, and ele respectively).

IF the person is leeching, he/she won't gain any factions. if such a person is killed (on ancestual lands and kanaii canyons), the killer's side will not receive factions.

my idea does not kick a leecher out of the game. it merely safely ignores it while providing an npc to fill out a body count. and let's face it: i'd rather have the npcs than most players, since most of the players out there are worse than the npcs.
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Old Aug 20, 2007, 09:12 AM // 09:12   #58
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Think before you respond. My point was that if someone is spamming his rank 12 emote 1 year and 9 months ago, how can people be stuck at rank 9 a year ago as you claim.

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Actually, I have switched back and forth as circumstances have required, however, at the time that the farming you are talking about was going on, I was actually Kurzick.

Stop taking things out of context, and *once again* trying to shift the subject off of something which you have been proven wrong about. You know full well I am talking about after they nerfed the ridiculously easy Faction Farming quests on both Kurzick, and Luxon sides which happened rather early on.
Another claim that is simply untrue. Yes they were nerfed, but on the kurzick side not beyond usability, and people still use it alot, which was my point. (Go to Luthgardis International before you respond to this and see the rank 9-10-11 kurzicks form for the farm run). And no you have not proven me wrong, you have proven yourself to make any statement (true or untrue, as with the ppl being stuck at rank 9 a year ago) as long as it serves your argument.

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As you have demonstrated a complete inability to stay on topic, and continue to take things out of context, and make wild assumptions in an attempt to support your point, you are most likely either a troll, or simply just very bad at arguing. Either way, continuing to reply to your trolling is a waste of time, and therefore, I choose not too. Unless you actually come up with an objective, logical arguement to support the original point of the topic.
I am staying on topic. I disagree with the OP that the title is a show of skill in AB, and that it is a pvp title (which is his reason he wants the rank cap raised, which I also disagree with). False statements like the one you are continually making are not helping this discussion.

The comparison to how difficult pvp-titles are attained and how easy it is to farm in pve for kurzick title was made to reflect how meaningless at least the kurzick title is as a pvp title.

Just accept that people farm for the title in pve. Just accept that this is more effective on the kurzick side and just accept that this leads to most high-ranked kurzicks having gained their rank from pve and I will let it drop. Continue to argue about that and so will I.
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Old Aug 20, 2007, 12:46 PM // 12:46   #59
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I cant say Luxon/Kurzick title is PvP title coz faction point can get from some quests in PvE. So let faction title be like this but I think Anet can add new title that give points when you win in AB. RA/TA has gladiator title, HA has hero title, Hero battle has commander title and GvG also has champion title. Why AB dont have their own title? I wont count Luxon/Kurzick title is title for AB coz I can get this title by not doing AB at all
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Old Aug 20, 2007, 02:59 PM // 14:59   #60
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Think before you respond. My point was that if someone is spamming his rank 12 emote 1 year and 9 months ago, how can people be stuck at rank 9 a year ago as you claim.
I apologize for misunderstanding what you were trying to say. I thought you were addressing the point I had made (which was already off topic because you had deflected it from the original point) rather than picking at yet another point of semantics, trying to change the subject, yet again.

Unbelievable.

I guess you missed the use of the word *about.* Since I could not remember exactly when Anet raised the max lvl of the title, and the game has only been out a bit over 2 years, I guessed. It seemed reasonable that players would not have achieved rank 12 in less than a year, so I figured it had to have been sometime in 2006. Ironically, the fact that they did actually disproves another of your points.

As the rest of your post is still ignoring my original point, and trying to goad me into more of your flame contest, I decline to reply to it. I only answered you at all to apologize for misinterpreting the meaning of one of your 'points.'

I was going to re post the original point in my original reply to you here in hope that you might actually respond to it, but then realized I *already had* restated it twice more for your benefit, and you continued to ignore it.
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